Srimad Bhagavad Gita AS IT IS

Bhagavad Gita:   Chapter 6 - Dhyana-yoga

TEXT 45
                         prayatnad yatamanas tu
                         yogi samsuddha-kilbisah
                         aneka-janma-samsiddhas
                          tato yati param gatim
 
WORD FOR WORD
   prayatnat--by rigid practice; yatamanah--endeavoring; tu--and; yogi--such a transcendentalist; samsuddha--washed off; kilbisah--all of whose sins; aneka--after many, many; janma--births; samsiddhah--having achieved perfection; tatah--thereafter; yati--attains; param--the highest; gatim--destination.
 
TRANSLATION
   And when the yogi engages himself with sincere endeavor in making further progress, being washed of all contaminations, then ultimately, achieving perfection after many, many births of practice, he attains the supreme goal.
 
PURPORT by HDG Srila A. C Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupad:
   A person born in a particularly righteous, aristocratic or sacred family becomes conscious of his favorable condition for executing yoga practice. With determination, therefore, he begins his unfinished task, and thus he completely cleanses himself of all material contaminations. When he is finally free from all contaminations, he attains the supreme perfection--Krsna consciousness. Krsna consciousness is the perfect stage of being freed of all contaminations. This is confirmed in the Bhagavad-gita (7.28):

                        yesam tv anta-gatam papam
                         jananam punya-karmanam
                        te dvandva-moha-nirmukta
                        bhajante mam drdha-vratah

   "After many, many births of executing pious activities, when one iscompletely freed from all contaminations, and from all illusory dualities, one becomes engaged in the transcendental loving service of the Lord."

His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada

Copyright 1983 The Bhaktivedanta Book Trust International. Used with permission.

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(here's some nectar, sometimes it comes in the form of Srutakirti prabhu's diary, other times from Govinda dasi's diary, Hari Sauri prabhu's Transcendental Diary, Bhurijan prabhu's book, or sometimes from a letter, or other related source, but still nectar...)

Difficulties in travelling

It seems that every time Prabhupada holds a big initiation, he becomes afflicted with some type of physical ailment. He now has a heavy cold which is worsening. It was bad enough today to warrant him deciding not to have his usual massage with oils. Instead he had me give him a dry one so that he would not have to take a bath.

He prepared to depart from the temple by 6:00 p.m. for the evening flight to London. His GBC and senior men, however, came to petition him to remain in New York and rest until he got his health back. Some suggested that he retire from all travel and engagements for a few months. They said that even the airlines advise against traveling with a cold. Air conditioning and pressurized cabins have adverse effects, especially on the ears, which become blocked during descent. Having a cold makes it difficult to clear them, and the pressurization brings dizziness and sometimes air-sickness.

But His Divine Grace politely shrugged aside all their suggestions as he waited by the elevator door. He stepped inside, surrounded by as many sannyasis and GBC men that could fit in with him, and began the descent. He turned to them and said with complete clarity and gravity, "I simply want the benediction, like Arjuna, to fight for Krsna to the last breath." He said it with such deep conviction that we all fell utterly silent in appreciation of his full surrender to the Lord and the great sacrifice he continues to make in the service of Krsna, for our and the world's benefit.

- From the "A Transcendental Diary Vol 3" by HG Hari Sauri dasa

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"Peaceful People In Kingdom"

Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.10.6
Mayapura, June 21, 1973

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Pradyumna: (leads chanting, etc.)

nadhayo vyadhayah klesa
daiva-bhutatma-hetavah
ajata-satrav abhavan
jantunam rajni karhicit

Translation: "Due to the King's having no enemy, the living beings were not at any time disturbed by mental agonies, diseases, or excessive heat or cold."

Prabhupada: So in the previous verse it has been described that nature was favorable. The river, the hills, the mountains, forests, vegetables, creepers, these are our natural surroundings. Animals... Everyone was complete. It is a cooperation. So many living entities, according to karma, we have got different bodies. Some has got the human form of body, some has got the body of an animal, some has got the body of a tree, creeper. Sometimes hills, mountains, also. Everyone. Their business is cooperation. We can study from our own body. There are different parts of the body, but it is a business of cooperation. Hand, legs, eyes, ears, nose, they are all cooperating for the upkeep of the body. Similarly, all living entities -- may be in different types of bodies -- they are meant for cooperating in the matter of serving the Supreme Lord, central point. (aside:) Just see the...

So if the government or the chief of the executive power, the king, is just to the point, dharmena, as it was said, "Abiding by the religious principles, ruling over the country," then everything, even natural elements, they become cooperative. They must become cooperative. What is nature? Nature is also another energy of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. So the nature is also working under the direction of the Supreme Personality of Godhead.

mayadhyaksena prakrtih
suyate sa-caracaram
hetunanena kaunteya
jagad viparivartate
 [Bg. 9.10]

So Maharaja Yudhisthira's time, the cooperation was so complete that everyone was free from anxiety, disease, calamities, natural disturbance.

In this material nature, or material world, we have got three kinds of sufferings, tri-tapa-yantana. Sri Sanatana Gosvami inquired, "Why these three kinds of miseries inflict pains upon me?" Ke ami kene amaya jare tapa-traya. Tapa-traya. Tapa means painful condition, tapa. Just like if you touch fire, it creates a painful condition by burning the part, similarly, this world is also a blazing fire, samsara-davanala. The rascals, they do not know. They are always out of the three kinds of miserable condition. Everyone is in some way or other under these conditions. These conditions means it is... These klesah, painful conditions, they are created by three causes. What are those causes? Daiva-bhutatma-hetavah. Daiva means created by the demigods. Daiva. Devata. Just like this rain department, water department, is under the control of Indra. So Indra can supply water just to your requirement, or sometimes he does not supply, or sometimes he supplies over, over requirement. Ativrsti, anavrsti. Anavrsti means no rain, and ativrsti means excessive. So we don't want excessive or less. We want just proper. So this is under the control of the devata. You cannot say... You may be very great scientist. You cannot say that "It is under my control." When there is no rainfall, you cannot say, "All right, we are scientists. We are creating rain." You can theoretically say, "Now we are making progress. In future."

All these rascals say, "In future." And we also believe, that "In future these rascals will give us all happiness." Not now. Now you die. Just like a clever lawyer, his client was condemned to death, to be hanged. I have seen it in Allahabad high court. And still, he is patting him, "Don't worry. I shall get you released by appeal. Now you can go to be hanged, and I shall get you released." Like that. I have seen it. One big European barrister... In those days European barristers were very valuable. Mr. Armstrong. I had also one case in high court. So one man, one medical practitioner, he killed his servant in the operation room very mercilessly. The servant was implicated with his wife. To revenge, he called the servant in the operation room. The servant did not know that he was to be killed. And immediately he was captured, chloroform, and mercilessly killed with knife and then packed up in a box. He was taking the corpse in a different place to throw away. In the meantime a police officer was passing. He saw that drops of blood is coming out of the box. He immediately arrested. So this case was. Then the doctor was condemned to death. So Mr. Armstrong was appointed his lawyer. So he was solacing, "Don't worry, I shall get you released by appeal." So our so-called scientists, they also say like that: "In future we shall do this. In future. Now you go to hell. That's all." But in future they cannot do anything. Daivi hy esa gunamayi mama maya duratyaya [Bg. 7.14]. Nature's law is so strong. The so-called childish scientists, they cannot give any relief. That is not possible. That is not possible. It is simply false promise. And those who are fools and rascals, they believe that in future... Future, but what they have done in the past? They cannot do anything.

Therefore it is said, there are three kinds of miserable conditions: daiva, bhuta, atma. Daiva means adhidaivika, and bhuta means adhibhautika, and atma means adhyatmika. Three kinds of miseries. Adhyatmika, pertaining to your body and mind. Body, we have got, we have got experience, so many bodily troubles, anxieties. If not body, mental. These are called adhyatmika. Then adhibhautika. I am peaceful, but another neighbor, or another animal, will give me some trouble. I am peacefully sitting here, but these flies are giving me trouble unnecessarily. I have to take precaution. So there are flies, mosquitoes, at night so many other animals, they come. Besides that, my brother, my friend, they are also prepared to give me trouble. Some way or other, other living entities causing some painful condition. This is called adhibhautika. And adhidaivika. Daivika, painful condition created by the demigods. Just like there is hurricane all of a sudden. So many trees falls down, sometimes cottages devastated, overflood, excessive rain, overflood, famine, pestilence. You have no control. You cannot control. You can simply say, "In future." That's all. But there is no control.

So we are always in this painful condition. That is material life. But those who have got eyes, sense, they can see. Just like Sanatana Gosvami, he could see. He was prime minister, well situated materially. Learned scholar, very intelligent. Otherwise how they could become Caitanya Mahaprabhu's personal associates? Very qualified. Caitanya Mahaprabhu... When Sanatana Gosvami consulted Jagadananda, that "I want to do this. What is your advice?"... Sanatana Gosvami became infected with itches all over the body. And it was, what is called, bleeding itches. Itches are two kinds: dry and sometimes oozing water. What is called?

Devotee: Pus. Pus.

Prabhupada: Not pus. Weeping.

Devotee: Weeping.

Prabhupada: Yes. The technical name is weeping. Dry and weeping. So it was weeping itches. And whenever he would go to Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, immediately Caitanya Mahaprabhu embrace him, and the weeping secretion will touch the body of Caitanya Mahaprabhu. So he thought that "I am suffering from this disease. Caitanya Mahaprabhu (is) embracing me. I shall kill myself. I shall commit suicide." So he consulted, not for suicide, but leaving the place. So when he was advised, "Yes, you can leave the place," so Caitanya Mahaprabhu, when He heard this news that Jagadananda has advised Sanatana Gosvami to leave the place, He became very angry, that "You have the audacity to advise Sanatana Gosvami? Nonsense." He was so respectful to Sanatana Gosvami. The same Sanatana Gosvami approached Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, asking Him the question: "What I am? Why I am put into these threefold miserable condition of life?"

So this is our position. We may be very great man in the estimation of our friends and countrymen, but everyone is subjected to the miserable condition of life. They cannot make any solution. That is not possible. They have made a solution, big, big learned scholars, just that Mr. Kotovsky said, "Swamiji, after death, there is no life. Everything is finished." Unless they think like that, then life becomes more horrible, full of anxieties. If they think of that there is another life and there is punishment and reward, according to our karma, then their life is very horrible. So just like the animals, poor animal, sometimes facing enemy, close the eyes, as if there is no enemy, so they do like that, close the eyes. Children, when there is danger, they close the eyes. They have no other means to escape. So these people, they close the eyes. "There is no life after death." Otherwise they cannot accommodate.

But there is life after death. Tatha dehantara-praptih. Tatha dehantara-praptih. There is life after death, simply change of body. Now, there are so many bodies, 8,400,000's of bodies. I can become next life a fly, according to my karma. Or I can become next life Brahma. That is also according to karma. But there are varieties of life. So the so-called scientists, they do not know what is life after death, how it happens, how it is going on. This is a great science. That you can understand from the Vedic literature, not from your so-called scientific research. That is not possible.

So how these people, during the time of Maharaja Yudhisthira, were free from all kinds of anxieties and diseases? Nadhayo vyadhayah klesah. If you are in anxiety, then that will create a disease. Our this psychological condition, physiological condition, is working in so subtle way -- little shocking, little disturbance will create another disturbance. The Ayurvedic medicine, they treat patients on this principle, how things are disturbed. They have got their calculation: kapha, pitta, vayu. Tri-dhatu. This body is a composition of these three dhatus. Yasyatma-buddhih kunape tri-dhatuke [SB 10.84.13]. Kunape. This is a bag created by the interaction of the three elements, namely, kapha, pitta, vayu, bile, mucus and air. This is kaviraja treatment. They can understand the position of these three elements by feeling the pulse. This is Ayurvedic science. If one kaviraja can learn to feel the pulse, he can say everything. He can say when this man will die, today or tomorrow or... Accurately he will say. The pulse beating is so scientifically described in Ayurvedic science. As soon as he fixes up the pulse beating, immediately the formulas are there: "Such kind of pulse beating will create such and such symptoms." So you feel the pulse and inquire the patient, "Are you feeling like this?" If he says, "Yes," then it is confirmed. The disease is confirmed. Then the medicine is there. Very simple thing. Now in allopathic treatment, first of all you have to sacrifice one chataka of blood, immediately. As soon as you go to the medical man, in your country, he will take so much blood. First of all you have to give your blood. Then fees. Then you have to purchase nonsense medicine. So here also there are nonsense kavirajas also. So unless one is expert in feeling the pulse, he is not kaviraja. That is the criterion.

Indian: It will take two years.

Prabhupada: Just see.

Indian: To pass education, takes two years' time.

Prabhupada: Yes. Two years' time. So this is the... This body is made of three dhatu, and misadjustment of these three things... If the mucus is increased, the other two decrease. In this way disturbance is created, and that is the cause of disease. Adhayo vyadhayah. So if people remain completely in hygienic principle, as they are prescribed in the sastras, just like rise early in the morning, take bath, evacuate and chant Hare Krsna mantra... If you follow the rules and regulation, then there will be no anxiety, no disease. People become crazy when he is full of anxieties or disease. If he is happy in every respect, then he does not become crazy, he does not become enemy. If everyone is satisfied, then where is the chance of becoming your enemy or my enemy? Everyone is satisfied.

So in Maharaja Yudhisthira's time, the government, the government was responsible also to keep people peaceful, without any anxiety. That is government. Without any anxiety. And now the government means full of anxieties. You do not know how to sleep peacefully at night. You have to keep watchmen, just see, enemies are coming or not, with torchlight. You see. This is our position, full of anxieties. Even we cannot sleep at night peacefully. This is government. And here you see, compare the government -- no anxiety, no anxiety. Just compare. So what is the use of this rascal government? The rascal government must be there because we are rascals. You cannot complain against the government. Because we select. It is the days of democracy. We elect our representative. So why you should, I mean to say, blame the government? You have created the government. You have sent your representative, a rascal, another big rascal. You are rascal, and another big rascal, you have voted; so how you can expect good government? You send only big rascals. That's all.

So there cannot be. That is stated in the Srimad-Bhagavatam, that in the Kali-yuga, all the people will be rascals, sudras. Simply by manipulation, if one gets vote, he captures the governmental power. Sudra. He's a sudra. He is not a ksatriya like Maharaja Yudhisthira, trained up ksatriya. He is a rascal, third-class man, fourth-class man. He gets the vote and we give vote. So how we can be happy? How we can be carefree or anxiety-free or disease-free? It is not possible. Therefore if the people in general, they become Krsna conscious, they become trained up in Krsna consciousness, they understand the value of life, how to live, then they can send good representative. Krsna conscious man. Then the government will be nice. Without becoming... Harav abhaktasya kuto mahad-gunah. If people are not Krsna conscious, their so-called qualification has no value. Kuto mahad-gunah. There cannot be value. There cannot be any good qualification of a person who is not Krsna conscious, who is not a devotee. This is our conclusion. We have got some test tubes. We can study man. He may become a very good scholar, very good politician, very big minister, but we test whether he has got any sense of Krsna consciousness. If he's not, immediately I understand that "Here is a rascal number one." That's all. We have got test tube, how much he is advanced in Krsna consciousness. If he's not, then he is grouped immediately in four groups: duskrtina, means constantly committing sinful activities; mudha, rascal; naradhama, lowest of the mankind; mayaya apahrta-jnana, although educated with high degrees, his knowledge has been taken away; asuram bhavam asritah, and demon.

na mam duskrtino mudhah
prapadyante naradhamah
mayayapahrta-jnana
asuram bhavam asritah
 [Bg. 7.15]

Immediately we classify, "Here is a rascal number one, lowest of the mankind," or "always engaged in sinful activities," or "whatever education he has got, that is useless, because his real knowledge..."

Just like Professor Kotovsky, such a big professor, he says, "There is no life after death." He's a rascal number one. What is the meaning of this education? He does not know that the soul is eternal, and therefore Bhagavad-gita teaches first, dehino 'smin yatha dehe kaumaram yauvanam... [Bg. 2.13]. Na hanyate hanyamane sarire [Bg. 2.20]. "First of all understand this: soul is eternal; you are eternal; you do not die, after the annihilation..." This is the first education. And these rascals, they say there is no life after death. So how much educated they are you can understand. They are all rascals. And you may open big, big colleges, institution, providing some rascal professor, rascal student, and beg the whole life, and sacrifice everything. It is useless. Srama eva hi kevalam, simply wasting time.

dharmah svanusthitah pumsam
visvaksena-kathasu yah
notpadayed yadi ratim
srama eva hi kevalam
 [SB 1.2.8]

Srama eva hi kevalam. You can do your duties very nicely, very good, dharmah svanusthitah, but if you do not develop your, I mean to say, attachment for Krsna... Vasudeva-katha rucih. "Oh, here krsna-katha is going on. Topics on Krsna is going on. Let me hear it." Just like here. We are talking of Krsna; nobody is coming. Nobody is coming. Only few selected. Vasudeva-katha rucih. There is no taste for hearing krsna-katha. So such kind of education, advancement of civilization, is srama eva hi kevalam, simply wasting time. And if you waste your time in such foolish activity, then there will be anxiety, there will be disease, there will be enemies, there will be disturbance -- everything, one after another, one after another. Natural disturbance, disturbance by other living creatures, disturbance by your body. So this world will become hell. This is the position.

So just compare the present governmental situation and the time... A king is supposed to be responsible for the citizen's peaceful life, no anxiety, no disease. Adhayo vyadhayah. That is king. Just like one brahmana approached Lord Ramacandra that "In the presence of father the son has died. You are responsible. There must be something wrong in Your kingdom." His son died. That is natural, that son lives, father dies. This is natural death. "And what is this? The father is living and son is dying?" So king was so much responsible, even the death must be systematic. There should be no anxiety. There should be no disease. There should be no scarcity, no famine, no natural disturbance. This is government. This is government. Just try to understand the ideal government during Maharaja Yudhisthira's time. Not only Maharaja Yudhisthira, all the kings. Rajarsayah. Imam rajarsayo viduh. They were all great rsis, although they were ksatriyas. Brahmana and ksatriya, they used to guide the general people. The high caste means who would guide the people nicely. The brahmana by their Vedic knowledge, perfect knowledge, pathana-pathana yajana-yajana dana-pratigraha. By high learning, they would... They were not interested for capturing the government. No. They had no time. But there was consulting body. Even Yudhisthira Maharaja's time, there was consulting body, all the kings. The brahmanas and the rsis, they would form a consulting body and give advice to the king: "My dear king, do like this.' And they will abide. Just like head. Head. Head gives the instruction to the arms. Not the arm gives instruction to the head. Head. Brain. Mukha-bahuru-padebhyah.

So brahmana means this portion, head, brain. And ksatriya means this portion, arm. And vaisya means this portion, belly. And sudra means this, leg. So no part is unimportant. Every part is important for upkeep of the body. But comparative study, this part is more important. If my head is cut off, then all other parts may remain. It will not act. Similarly, at the present moment there is no brahmana. All sudras, simply legs. If you keep the legs of the body, what is the value of this body? There must be head. Everything must be there. Everything must be there. The head must be there, arms must be there, the abdomen must be there, the legs must be there. Then it is complete body. Similarly, this scientific division, catur-varnyam maya srstam guna-karma-vibhagasah [Bg. 4.13], the division of the human society according to quality, the brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, sudra. Krsna says, maya srstam: "This is My creation for upkeep of the social system."

So there is necessity of the sudras and there is necessity of the brahmana. There is necessity of the ksatriya. Everyone is required to do, to function, in his particular position. Then the society will be nadhayo vyadhayah klesah. No more anxiety and no more disease. Everyone is peaceful, cool-minded, cool-brained. Then chant Hare Krsna without any disturbance and go back to home back, to Godhead.

Thank you very much. (end)
 
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This is a verse from Brahma-saàhitä in which the incarnation of Lord Rämacandra is described. Rämädi. Not only Räma, but there are many other, innumerable incarnations. They are compared with the waves of a river. As the waves of the river or the waves of the ocean cannot be counted, similarly, how many incarnations are there of the Supreme Lord it is not possible to count. But out of them, the principal names are mentioned in the çästras. Therefore it is said rämädi. Rämädi means Räma and also other, many incarnations. And they are existing. Not that one incarnation appeared and it is finished. No. Not like that. Just like Lord Rämacandra appeared on this planet, say millions of years before. He appeared in the Treta-yuga. Treta-yuga means... We have passed only five thousand years of this age, Kali-yuga. Before that, there was Dväpara-yuga. Dväpara-yuga means 800,000 years. And before that, there was Tretä-yuga, which continued for twelve hundred thousands of years. That means at least two million years before Lord Rämacandra appeared on this planet.

So now Lord Rämacandra appeared in Ayodhyä. There is a place in Ayodhyä, in northern India. There He appeared. As Kåñëa appeared in Mathurä... That is also northern India. And Mathurä is about ninety miles down southward from New Delhi. You have heard the name of New Delhi, the capital of India. So Ayodhyä is also situated about five hundred miles northeast of New Delhi. So Lord Rämacandra appeared on this day. Today is called Çré Räma Naumi. On the ninth day of the moon Lord Rämacandra appeared. His father was the king of Ayodhyä, and he had three wives. So out of... No. He had two wives. So out of two wives he got four sons. Rämacandra is the eldest son. The life and activities of Lord Rämacandra is... [break] ...in a book which is called Rämäyaëa. You have heard the name of Rämäyaëa. Rämäyaëa is also accepted as history. Vedic literatures are histories also. The Puräëas, the Çrémad-Bhägavatam, Mahäbhärata, and Rämäyaëa, they are counted amongst the history. The history of Rämacandra is that His father wanted to retire. Daçaratha, Mahäräja Daçaratha. And he decided to enthrone Lord Rämacandra and retire. So everything was settled, but just one day before, his youngest wife turned the whole thing into different way. Sometimes Mahäräja Daçaratha was suffering from what is called whitlow, some trouble in the finger? And this queen served him very nicely, and he was pleased. And he said, “My dear Çarmiñöhä, if you want some benediction from me, I can give you.” And she replied that “I shall ask you for the benediction when I require it. Not now.” So just one day before Lord Rämacandra’s coronation, she approached her husband Mahäräja Daçaratha and reminded him, “My dear husband, you promised to give me some benediction, and I told you that I shall ask you when I require it.” Mahäräja Daçaratha said, “Yes, I remember. You want some benediction just now?” She said, “Yes.” “And what is that?” She said that “Rämacandra cannot be seated on the throne. My son should be coronated, Bhärata.” He was surprised. It is a big demand. So he said, “All right. That will be done. Your son.” Because formerly, the kings... Not only formerly, even up to date, there are many kñatriya kings in India. They have more than one wife. And they are, naturally, there is rivalry between different wives. So the same thing. Human psychology is the same. Even two million years ago the same mentality was there, and she asked that “My son should be the king, not Rämacandra.” Rämacandra happened to be the son of Kauçalyä, the elder queen.

So Mahäräja Daçaratha agreed and called for Rämacandra. “My dear boy, your...” She asked also that... She was very diplomatic. She wanted that Rämacandra go to forest for fourteen years. The idea was political, that “The king may agree to install my son just now. Now, after a few days, this Rämacandra may come with His army, and there may be some difficulty to continue the kingdom.” So she wanted that Rämacandra should go to the forest and He should not come back till the end of fourteen years from this day. So Mahäräja Daçaratha agreed. Because he was kñatriya. Just see the promise. A kñatriya never goes back from the promise, never refuses any challenge. If a kñatriya is challenged by somebody, that “I want to fight with you,” oh, he cannot refuse. This is kñatriya spirit. He cannot say that “I am now busy.” Suppose somebody comes to you, that “I want to fight with you.” You may say, “What nonsense fight? I have no time. We are in the temple.” But a kñatriya cannot deny that. A kñatriya at once must accept. “Oh, yes. Come on.” And the weapon should be, if he has no sword or weapon, he should be supplied weapon and fight. This is kñatriya spirit. They were highly charitable and chivalrous and keeping promise and with a great tendency for ruling over. They shall rule over. Administrators. Their business is...

There are different prescription for different classes of men for their livelihood. The brähmaëas, they can pull on their livelihood by six ways. Paöhana paöhana yäjana yäjana däna pratigraha. Six. And they must be qualified with twelve high qualities. We have many times discussed. Out of that qualification, truthfulness is the first item for a brähmaëa. A kñatriya may speak lies. That is allowed, because he has to be diplomat, politician. But a brähmaëa, oh, he’s not allowed to speak lie. This is the system, caste system or varëäçrama system. Everyone was trained. Because these four classes of men are required in a society. For proper upkeep of society, one class of men must be very intelligent, highly qualified, with all good qualities. They must be trained in that way, ideal character so that people can see and follow them. Therefore brähmaëas were taken to so much respect because they’re ideal character, learned, and godly, knows the science, spiritual science. Therefore they’re held in high estimation and topmost of the society. The next, the administrator, administrative class, kñatriyas. They are trained how to kill. The kñatriyas were allowed to hunt in the forest to learn the art of killing because that was necessity for the kñatriyas. Kñatriya, if he... If the king, if he finds somebody is doing wrong, he can immediately chop off his head if he likes. The king was so powerful. And it is not that if there was some war, it is not that the president or the king shall sit down comfortably at home and ordinary soldiers will go and lay down their life. No. Formerly, the king or the head of the state, he should first of all go there in the fight. You see in the picture, the chief men of the fighting in the Kurukñetra, both sides, they were arrayed, this side, that side, with their chariot. Not that the head man, the chief man, or the commander is taking shelter back side, protecting himself, and poor soldiers are (chuckles) thrown into the fighting. No. These were kñatriya spirit. And it is necessary that a class of men should be trained up in that way, kñatriya, fighting men. In India, because this training was there since a very long time, so there is no difficulty in recruiting soldiers there. There is a class of men, they are very much forward in fighting still. They are called... Just like the Gurkhas, the Nepalese. You have heard the name of Nepal. Still a small state, independent state. They are not within India. Between China and India. The whole Nepal population, they are kñatriyas. Oh, they are very good fighters. Similarly, the Sikhs, the Jätas. There are classes. So they’re always forward for fighting. And you’ll be surprised that the British Empire was voluntarily liquidated because they lost India. The Britishers, they understood that because we are now losing India, there is no more possibility to keep our eastern empire. Therefore they liquidated. Why? Actually, the whole British Empire were being administered or managed by Indian soldiers, these Sikhs and Gurkhas. They extended their empire. After taking their position with India, they extended British Empire in the Middle East and Far East simply by these Sikhs and Gurkha soldiers. They got supremacy on the Burma and everywhere.

So there is necessity of a class of fighting men. You are finding in your country difficulty in recruiting because the recruiting process is wrong. You are recruiting from persons... You are training persons just like çüdras, and you want them to fight. How they can fight? It is not possible. So as it is stated in the Bhagavad-gétä, that cätur-varëyaà mayä såñöaà guëa karma vibhägaçaù... [Bg. 4.13]. Lord Kåñëa said that “The four classes or orders of the society, brähmaëa, kñatriya, vaiçya, çüdra, is planned by Me according to work and quality.” So this kñatriya quality men is also required, the brähmaëa quality of men is also required, the mercantile community, they are also required, and the laborer class, they are also required. Of course, laborer class, they do not require any training. Laborer class means one who cannot do anything, neither become brähmaëa, nor become kñatriya, nor become vaiçya. That means the last balance of the population, they are called laborer class, çüdra. Çüdra means one who has no training. Çüdra has no saàskära. Saàskära means training. Everyone is accepted as çüdra by birth. Janmana jayate çüdra. Janmana means by birth. By birth, everyone is born a çüdra, a fourth-class man. It is to be accepted, and actually so. Just like a child, innocent child, what does he know? He has to be trained. Either you train him as a brähmaëa or train him as a kñatriya or train him as a vaiçya. Or otherwise, he is çüdra already, born çüdra. Çüdra has no training. Everyone, the basic principle, basic foreground, everyone, it is accepted çüdra. Now, if you train him as a brähmaëa, then he becomes a brähmaëa. If you train him as a kñatriya, then he becomes a kñatriya. If you train him as a vaiçya... So I think this is, this system is very scientific so that if you want help of a really intelligent man or God realized man, it is ready, the brähmaëa class. Just like if you require the help of a lawyer, we have got so many lawyers. If you require the help of medical man... Because there are trained men. Similarly, the society requires to train a certain class of men to become brähmaëas. Just like we are training the Kåñëa conscious. The Kåñëa consciousness is meant for the brähmaëas. They are not meant for fighting because they are not being trained for fighting. They have been trained for becoming brähmaëas. Who is brähmaëa? Brahma jänäti iti brähmaëa. The four divisions are described like this. Janmanä jäyate çüdraù, everyone is born çüdra. That is accepted. Saàskäräd bhaved dvijaù. Now if you train him, never mind in which family he’s born, you have to train him. Just like boys are sent to school for being trained. So everyone is accepted as çüdra, but you now train him. He goes to the guru-gåha.
Guru-gåha means teacher’s house. Formerly, for being trained, there was no such big scale school and colleges. Every village... Still, fifty years before in India, in every village there was a small school conducted by the brähmaëa, and the village children would be trained up there. So he was sent for training. And there was no school fee. The boys will go there, and on behalf of the teacher or spiritual master, they will go, brahmacäré, door to door, and beg and bring forth alms, rice, dahl, grains, and everything. That was the system. There was no school fee. There was no problem how to send a boy to the school. Saàskära. Now he’s trained up. The teacher sees the psychology of the boy, in which way he should be trained. Either he should be trained as a vaiçya or he should be trained as a kñatriya. So everyone was trained like that, but generally, the son of a kñatriya... Just like Mahäräja Rämacandra or Arjuna, from the very beginning they were trained as kñatriya. Naturally, if somebody is the son of a medical man his father trains him to become a medical man in future. That is the natural tendency. If the boy is different altogether that is another question, but naturally, that is the tendency. So a kñatriya’s son was trained as kñatriya. A brähmaëa’s son was trained as a brähmaëa and a vaiçya’s son was trained as a vaiçya, and çüdra had no training. So gradually this became a caste system. Brähmaëa’s son became brähmaëa. Because formerly, the training was there. But when it is vitiated, although a person born in the family of a brähmaëa, he is doing the work of a çüdra. So according to Vedic scripture, one is classified according to his work and quality, not by birth. That is the classification of çästra. Just like in the Bhagavad-gétä the Lord says cätur-varëyaà mayä såñöaà guëa-karma-vibhägaçaù [Bg. 4.13]. Guëa means quality and karma means work. One must be qualified for the work and he must actually work. Then he is counted classified into that, I mean to say, category. Just like if you are simply trained or educated as a lawyer, and if you are not practicing in the court, nobody comes to you to consult as a lawyer. Nobody cares for you. You must be practicing also. Similarly, to become a brähmaëa means first of all, he must know what is Brahman and he must be actually situated in the activities of Brahman. So devotional service are activities of Brahman. Activities in Kåñëa consciousness means activities in Brahman. Brähme carati iti brahmä brahmacäré. Carati means acts. Actually, he acts in life, applies the principles of brähmaëa in his life, he is called brahmacäré. So these were the trainings.
So just see how the training was, that a kñatriya cannot refuse his promise. So Mahäräja Daçaratha, he fulfilled the promise of his youngest wife and asked his son, eldest son Rämacandra, “My dear boy, You’ll have to go to forest for fourteen years. That is the desire of Your youngest mother. And I promised that I shall fulfill her promise, uh, request. So please accept.” Rämacandra said, “Yes father, I am ready.” Just see. This is the quality. Out of the six opulences of God, this is one quality.

aiçvaryasya samägrasya
véryasya yaçasaù çriyaù
jïäna-vairägyayoç caiva
ñaëëäà bhägam itéìganä
 (Viñëu Puräëa 6.5.47)

How one becomes God? God is not manufactured by vote. There are definition who is God. God must be the proprietor of all the riches. Aiçvaryasya samägrasya. Samägra means all. Nobody can compete with Him. Here, in this world, material world, I am rich man, and there is another rich man who can compete with me. There is another rich man who can compete with him. But nobody can compete with God in richness. That is one qualification of God. Nobody can say that “I am richer than God.” You can say “I am richer than Ford or Rockefeller” or this or that. You can say. But nobody can say that “I am richer than God.” Therefore in the Bhagavad-gétä it is said mattaù parataraà nänyat asti kiïcid dhanaïjaya. Mattaù parataraà nänyat kiïcid asti dhanaïjaya [Bg. 7.7]. Dhanaïjaya is a name of Arjuna, and Kåñëa said that, “My dear Arjuna, there is nobody greater than Me.” So if anyone claims that he is God, he must prove by practical example that nobody is richer than him. That is the first. But unfortunately, we are accepting so many Gods. A rascal in the street, he also claims that “I am God.”

So similarly, the other qualification, nobody can be stronger than God, nobody can be wiser than God, nobody can be more beautiful than God, and nobody can be more renouncer than God. So here Rämacandra, Lord Rämacandra exhibited the quality how He renounced the whole kingdom simply on the order of His father, His obedience to father. He could have argued with His father, “My dear father, you, simply for keeping your promise and actuated by the dictation of a woman, you are doing this. Let us stop it. Everyone is expecting that tomorrow My coronation will be there, and they love Me so much.” Because He... Just like Kåñëa was so much loved, similarly, Lord Rämacandra was the life of the people. They were very much expecting that Rämacandra was going to be enthroned tomorrow. So how they were celebrating, how they were decorating the whole city. Everything. He never argued. He accepted immediately: “Yes, father. I am ready.”

So then one of the brothers, Lakñmaëa, He also requested Rämacandra, “My dear brother, You also take Me. I am Your constant companion. I must go with You.” So He said, “That’s Your wish. Voluntarily, if You want to come, You can come with Me.” Then Sétä, His wife, young wife, She also said, “I’ll go with You.” Rämacandra requested His wife, “Oh, you cannot go with Me. It is very difficult. You are a king’s daughter, and you are brought up in so nice way, and you are so beautiful. You cannot go. You cannot take the trouble of living in the forest.” So she said, “Oh, I am Your wife. Married wife. So I must go even if You go to hell.” This is ideal wife. She could have refused: “Oh, Your father has ordered to go to forest. You can go. I shall go to my father’s house or I shall remain here.” No. This is ideal wife. She must be prepared to accept any circumstances of the husband. Not that when the husband is rich the wife is very faithful, and when he has come down to be poor or he’s going to forest the wife gives up his company. No. Wife means better half. She must abide. Just like, it is said, just like a shadow follows the reality, similarly, the wife is the shadow of the husband. Wherever the husband goes, she must go. Whatever the husband wants, she must carry out. Of course, in this country this interpretation is taken differently, that wife is made a slave. But actually, it is not so. When Sétä was kidnapped in the jungle, Rämacandra expected that, that she was beautiful, she was young, and “We shall be in open jungle. It may be some demons may come,” and actually it so happened. So for Sétä, Lord Rämacandra massacred the whole family of Rävaëa. Only for Sétä. So as the husband, so the wife. The wife was so faithful that she could not remain alone. She must accompany the husband even in the forest. And the husband was so faithful that, “Oh, my wife has been kidnapped.” So He massacred the whole family of Rävaëa.

So these are ideal history how... Rämacandra, Lord Rämacandra appeared on this world to educate or to place ideal example of a king. How the king should be. Therefore when there is good government... The example is given, Räma-räjya. Räma- räjya. It is the kingdom of Lord Räma. Because everyone was happy, everyone. There are so many instances in the life of Rämacandra. One brähmaëa... Not brähmaëa exactly. Somebody came to Rämacandra. Because at that time there was no court like this, that you have to go to a court and apply with stamp fee. Then your judgment will be delivered after six years. It is not like that. Anyone who has got some complaint, he should... The king used to sit in the open audience, and the citizens were allowed to approach the king and place their complaints. Because there was no complaint practically. Everyone was happy. Very minor complaint. So somebody came to Rämacandra, and he charged Rämacandra, “My dear king, my son has died. How is that, in the presence of his father, son can die? There must be something wrong in Your government.” Just see. The charge is “Why my son has died before my death? This is unnatural.” So there was nothing unnatural. The king was responsible even for severe cold, severe heat. That we get from history of Çrémad-Bhägavatam. That is stated. So the kings were so much responsible. They were always thinking of the happiness of the citizens, and the citizens were also so nice. One citizen approached Lord Rämacandra and His next assistant, His brother, Lakñmaëa, informed Him that “He is a brähmaëa. You were absent on Your tour for, I think for a fortnight or a month, and this brähmaëa has not eaten even a drop of water during Your absence.” Why? “Because he comes here to see You, darçana.” Just like we come here in the temple to see the Deity. So Lord Rämacandra was present personally. So he used to come. After seeing Rämacandra, offering his obeisances, then he would go home and take something, his breakfast. That was his vow. And because he could not see for a fortnight or a month Lord Rämacandra because He was out on political tour, he did not eat even. Just see. The citizens were similar to the king. So at that time, there was a statue of Rämacandra which was being worshiped in the family from Mahäräja Ikñväku. Mahäräja Ikñväku, the son of Manu, happens to be the forefather of the family in which Rämacandra appeared. So he was devotee of Lord Räma, and he was worshiping the statue of Lord Räma. So that statue was being worshiped by the family one after another. But when Rämacandra was actually present He kept that statue in the closet of the room, and when this brähmaëa approached and Rämacandra was informed by Lakñmaëa that he is so steady and strong in his vow, so Rämacandra ordered that he may be delivered that statue so that in My absence he can offer respect to the statue and do with this. That form, I mean to say, statue, or arca of Rämacandra is still existing in South India. It is being worshiped from that time.

So these were the dealings of Rämacandra. Then He, His younger brother Lakñmaëa and His wife went to the forest, and His wife was kidnapped by the diplomacy of the demon Rävaëa, and there was fight between Räma and Rävaëa. Rävaëa was very, materialistically, he was very strong. But the thing is for fighting with Rävaëa, Rämacandra did not come back to His kingdom and take His army. No. He did not come back because He was ordered to live in the forest. So He organized army with the jungle animals, the monkeys. The monkeys. He fought with Rävaëa, an organized materialist, with the monkeys. You have seen the picture. And He constructed a bridge between India’s last point to the other side. Ceylon is considered to be the kingdom of Rävaëa. So there was a bridge, and the stones were floating.

So there are so many historical incidences in the life of Rämacandra, and we should remember, because if we remember why we are observing today fasting for Rämacandra... There were many kings like Rämacandra. Because the kings were trained in that way. Mahäräja Yudhiñöhira was also as good as Rämacandra, and Mahäräja Parikñit was as good. There were many such kings. But we are not concerned because He was a king. He is the King of all kings, parameçvara. Because He is God, therefore we are observing today. Rämädi-mürtiñu kalä-niyamena tiñöhan [Bs. 5.39]. So He is not original form of God. The original form of God is Kåñëa, and Kåñëa expands Himself in various other forms. Advaitam acyutam anädim ananta-rüpam [Bs. 5.33]. Ananta-rüpam means millions and millions. The Manu is also incarnation of Kåñëa. So in one day of Brahmä there are fourteen Manus. So Brahmä lives for one hundred years. Just see how many incarnation of Manus are there even for one Brahmä, and there are innumerable Brahmäs also. So, as stated in the Çrémad-Bhägavatam that nobody can count how many incarnations are there, but some of the chief incarnations are mentioned, and Lord Rämacandra is one of them. So Lord Rämacandra, He killed Rävaëa and He installed his brother. His brother was devotee, Vibhéñaëa. So He did not go to conquer Ceylon, because He was emperor. He went to punish that culprit Rävaëa, and He installed his younger brother Vibhéñaëa in that... And He came back with Sétä, and again He was installed after fourteen years, and His brother was so faithful that so long His eldest brother was away, Rämacandra requested Him that “Your mother wants that You should be king, and I also wish that in My absence You should be king.” Bharata, He was so faithful brother, He replied, “No. You are king. So long You are living, nobody can be king. So I cannot be king.” Then He requested, “At least You administer.” Because after the departure of Lord Rämacandra, Mahäräja Daçaratha died out of the shock because Rämacandra was very pet son, eldest son. He was going to be king, and by his order He was sent to the forest. The father could not tolerate the shock. He died.
So Rämacandra’s life, God’s activities, pastimes, if we hear, that means we are associating with Rämacandra. There is no difference between His form, His name, His pastimes, and Himself. He’s absolute. Therefore either you chant the holy name of Räma or you see the statue of Räma or you talk of His pastimes, transcendental pastimes, everything, that means you are associating with the Supreme Personality of Godhead. So we take advantage of these days when the incarnation of God appears or disappears, and we try to associate with Him. By His association we become purified. Our process is purification. Kåñëa consciousness means simply we are purifying our consciousness. From the birth, as I have explained, everyone is çüdra. Çüdra means one who laments. That is called çüdra. For a slight loss or slight inconvenience, one who laments, he is called çüdra. And brähmaëa means one who tolerates. A çüdra has no toleration. So kalau çüdra sambhava. Kalau means... This age is called Kali. So it is the statement of the çästras that in this age the whole population is çüdra. And formerly also, by his birth, everyone was considered çüdra, but there was training, saàskära. At the present moment, there is no saàskära, there is no training. The training is only for earning livelihood. No other training. How one can earn money and enjoy senses—that is the training at the present moment. But actually, to make successful the human life or the mission of human life, the Vedic culture is very nice. And by spreading Kåñëa consciousness, by adopting the process of Kåñëa consciousness, you can revive that cultural life, sublime life. If not wholesale, if there are a few people trained up in this line, and they become ideal examples to the society, immense benefit can be derived from their examples of life. What is time? [break] (kértana) (end)
(A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada 27th March 1969. The Appearance day of Lord Rama - Ramanavami, Hawaii, USA.) http://vedabase.com

On this website http://www.skyimagelab.com/hanmonbrid.html  there is the assertion that Ceylon was Lanka of the Ramayana. The assertion is also made using typical offensive language of mundane scholars regarding Sastras.

Today is Ramanavami on this date last year I started reading the Ramayana (full edition). In the Ramayana we learn that Lanka was 100 yojanas from the mainland. Since a yojana is about 8 miles that would mean that it was about 800 miles from the mainland. Much further than current Sri Lanka aka Ceylon. Also the Suryasiddhanta mentions that the meridian which passes through Ujjain also passes through Lanka. (The Suryasiddhanta and all of the Jyotish literature uses the meridian passing through Ujjain as the reference point just as today the meridian of Greenwich is used for astronomical calculations and time keeping.) Ujjain is 75 degrees 47 minutes east of Greenwich if you look south in the Indian Ocean the closest land would be the Maldive Islands in the Lakshadvip Sea (100,000 Islands sea). So I would suggest that is the actual area of the original Lanka not Ceylon which only recently (1972) renamed itself as Sri Lanka. The actual Lanka is submerged and only some of its highest points are above the ocean. In any case the real Lanka was several hundred miles to the South West of current Ceylon-Sri Lanka.

Ceylon has been known by that name for at least 2500 years. It was the name that the Romans, Greeks and Persians knew it by (Greek traders in the Ptolomiac and Roman empires regularly went to South India and even onto China via the well known trade route starting from Alexandria, down the Nile, portage across to the Red Sea, down the Red Sea and then straight across the Arabian Sea to modern Kerala. This is how Saint Thomas, disciple of Christ, got to South India and why Kerela has 20% Christians since that time. The many hordes of Roman dinari (gold coins) that have been excavated in the extreme south of India also attest to this fact.

In ancient times it was also called Taprobane (especially by the Greeks) and Serendip, which was derived from Sanskrit for Sinhala Dvipa, the island of Singhalese. The Singalese were originally from the Kalinga region (Orissa) and invaded the island some time before 500 BC. It morphed into Ceylon from Serendip.

The English word Serendipity--which is finding something unexpected and useful while searching for something else entirely. For instance, the discovery of the antibacterial properties of penicillin by Alexander Fleming is said to have been a serendipitous discovery--is etymologically derived from its possession by the heroes of the Persian fairy tale "The Three Princes of Serendip"

In any case by what ever name you call it modern Sri Lanka-Ceylon is not the Lanka of the Ramayana because it is much too far to the North East by several hundreds of miles from the location of Lanka indicated in the Ramayana and the astronomical Siddhantas and other Jyotish literature.

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